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Wednesday, October 08, 2014

Dutch slaughter

So much for the concept of "never again". Between abortion and the end of life and euthanasia at the end of it, modern secularists are beginning to make the National Socialist approach to mass killing look downright moderate:
The number of mentally-ill patients killed by euthanasia in Holland has trebled in the space of a year, new figures have revealed. In 2013, a total of 42 people with ‘severe psychiatric problems’ were killed by lethal injection compared to 14 in 2012 and 13 in 2011. The latest official figures also revealed a 15 per cent surge in the number of euthanasia deaths from 4,188 cases in 2012 to 4,829 cases last year. The incremental rise is consistent with a 13 per cent increase in 2012, an 18 per cent rise in 2011, 19 per cent in 2010 and 13 per cent in 2009.

The rise is also likely to confirm the fears of Dutch regulator Theo Boer who told the Daily Mail that he expected to see euthanasia cases smash the 6,000 barrier in 2014. Overall, deaths by euthanasia, which officially account for three per cent of all deaths in the Netherlands, have increased by 151 per cent in just seven years.

Most cases - some 3,600 people – involved cancer sufferers but there were also 97 people who died at the hands of their doctors because they were suffering from dementia, the figures show. The figures, however, do not include cases of so-called terminal sedation, where patients are given a cocktail of sedatives and narcotics before food and fluids are withdrawn. Studies suggest that if such deaths were added to the figure then euthanasia would account for one in eight – about 12.3 per cent – of all deaths in the Netherlands.
So, Dutch doctors are murdering people with "severe psychiatric problems" as well as dementia. At this point, it won't be long into it is decided that everyone with an IQ under 99 is removed from the gene pool.

The idea that modern post-Christian society is any less barbaric than the Middle Ages is becoming increasingly risible. 

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107 Comments:

Blogger Leatherwing October 08, 2014 1:02 PM  

How long before having the wrong political opinion is equated with "severe psychiatric problems"?

Blogger Paul, Dammit! October 08, 2014 1:08 PM  

And how long before NOT euthanizing yourself for certain reasons becomes socially unacceptable? You know, before you become a "burden." Looks like the Dutch are getting their Final Solution, 70 years later.

Anonymous Jonathan63 October 08, 2014 1:15 PM  

Can I get a doctor to diagnose my parents with dementia so I can get ahold of my inheritance sooner?

Anonymous bemused October 08, 2014 1:18 PM  

69 people in three years makes the NAZIs look moderate?

Blogger pyrrhus October 08, 2014 1:19 PM  

Dutch traffic deaths in 2013--570. http://bicycledutch.wordpress.com/2014/04/25/traffic-fatalities-decreased-significantly-in-2013/

Anonymous TLM October 08, 2014 1:21 PM  

This is just a precursor to our future Logan's Run society. Renew! Renew!

Blogger pyrrhus October 08, 2014 1:22 PM  

"The idea that modern post-Christian society is any less barbaric than the Middle Ages is becoming increasingly risible."

I advise you to stay out of Holland, Vox!

Anonymous Don October 08, 2014 1:25 PM  

bemused - So the Nazis murdered 12.3% of their society?

Anonymous Peter16 October 08, 2014 1:25 PM  

The logical next phase, after everyone gets used to the current one as being normal, is getting rid of 'useless eaters'. They cost too much. Those who produce less than they consume will have a target on their backs.

Anonymous Maths is harrrrd! October 08, 2014 1:28 PM  

69 people in three years makes the NAZIs look moderate?

12.3% of ~200,000 deaths per year = 24,600 deaths by euthanasia.

Anonymous Cranberry October 08, 2014 1:29 PM  

@Paul Dammit! ST:TNG "Half A Life" addressed this. Suicide at 65 so you don't burden your kids with your old useless body. Hey, it's cultural, don't dare judge it.

People don't see this is as barbaric, they see it as humane, and enlightened. Which is frightening, because if you don't see it as humane and enlightened, then you're barbaric...and probably mentally deranged and therefore a candidate for euthanasia.

What troubles me is that people don't see that this can eventually become a custom, or worse, a law.

Anonymous Josh October 08, 2014 1:29 PM  

bemused - So the Nazis murdered 12.3% of their society?

That's not what the article said. One in eight deaths does not mean the Dutch are currently killing one in eight people.

Anonymous bemused October 08, 2014 1:30 PM  

So all euthanasia is equivalent to the NAZIs? Just need to level set.

Anonymous Charles Darwin October 08, 2014 1:34 PM  

"Hardly anyone is so ignorant as to allow his worst animals to breed."

Anonymous Bill Gates October 08, 2014 1:43 PM  

“The world today has 6.8 billion people. That's heading up to about nine billion. Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care & reproductive health services, we could LOWER that by perhaps 10 or 15 percent.”

Anonymous Don October 08, 2014 1:44 PM  

1/8ths of all deaths in Germany were 'murder by Nazis'? Better everyone?

OpenID spastic0plastic October 08, 2014 1:44 PM  

As long as they're not executing convicted murderers, that is true savagery.

Anonymous John Maynard Keynes October 08, 2014 1:45 PM  

The time has already come when each country needs a considered national policy about what size of population, whether larger or smaller than at present or the same, is most expedient. And having settled this policy, we must take steps to carry it into operation. The time may arrive a little later when the community as a whole must pay attention to the innate quality as well as to the mere numbers of its future members."

Anonymous Cryan Ryan October 08, 2014 1:52 PM  

Gee I was just getting used to the ilk ranting about how great it would be to murder all the boomers...and now this...

Some of you must be suffering from cognitive dissonance.

Anonymous richard w comerford October 08, 2014 1:54 PM  

Re: Belgium

By coincidence earlier this week I read an article the author of which claimed that in neighboring Belgium that one out of eight deaths are now a result of either direct euthanasia or by allowing a patient to die by dehydration and starvation.

God bless

Richard W Comerford

Blogger Thordaddy October 08, 2014 1:56 PM  

The Liberationist believes in two "rights..."

The "right" to self-annihilate.
The "right" to "f$&k, screw, love" whomever one pleases.

All Westerners are at least one of these types of liberal.

Anonymous Espantoon October 08, 2014 1:58 PM  

“At this point, it won't be long into it is decided that everyone with an IQ under 99 is removed from the gene pool.” A slippery slope indeed.

Justifications for euthanasia began with terminal patients in excruciating, untreatable pain, then moved to “severe psychiatric problems,” and now include fearful, depressed people who request death because they simply do not want to keep on living.

I recall a story from a while back (possibly apocryphal) about a family in Sweden or the Netherlands who dropped by the hospital to check on their mother, who was not dying and who expressly asked not to be euthanized. When they found another patient in her room they asked what happened to her and found that she had been put down, apparently because the attending physician who covered for her personal doctor over the weekend decided that they needed the bed.

Having said that, given the visceral loathing of the Baby Boomers expressed by many members of The Ilk in past posts, euthanasia would seem the ideal way to rid yourselves of them. The savings in health care costs alone would justify it, and the sooner they are gone the better, right?

Of course, stopping the euthanasia train may not be so easy when it approaches your station, and you discover that you yourself are about to be kicked off.

Blogger Joshua Dyal October 08, 2014 2:00 PM  

The logical next phase, after everyone gets used to the current one as being normal, is getting rid of 'useless eaters'. They cost too much. Those who produce less than they consume will have a target on their backs.

Not likely, seeing as both the leaders and the enablers of this movement produce little if anything.

Blogger Hamilton October 08, 2014 2:01 PM  

The title of the post is misleading.

I though this was about soccer.

Anonymous PA October 08, 2014 2:04 PM  

"it won't be long into it is decided that everyone with an IQ under 99 is removed from the gene pool"

Eugenic euthanasia combined with disgenic welfare + immigration policy makes no sense.

Anonymous Stickwick October 08, 2014 2:17 PM  

PA: Eugenic euthanasia combined with disgenic welfare + immigration policy makes no sense.

Doesn't have to. The modern progressive philosophy, in general, is the least internally consistent philosophy in the history of mankind.

Anonymous kfg October 08, 2014 2:21 PM  

"it won't be long into it is decided that everyone with an IQ under 99 is removed from the gene pool"

So the average IQ of parliament would rise.

" . . . the visceral loathing of the Baby Boomers expressed by many members of The Ilk . . ."

Save on money and karma; just issue them all bicycles:

"67% of people who die on the bicycle are older than 60."

Anonymous Dr. Kenneth Noisewater October 08, 2014 2:22 PM  

At this point, it won't be long into it is decided that everyone with an IQ under 99 is removed from the gene pool.

Are folks with lower or higher IQs easier for elites to manage and control? Cuz whichever type of person is easier will get to live, at least in their regime. IIRC there's a newer Twilight Zone or Outer Limits to that effect.

Anonymous Scintan October 08, 2014 2:28 PM  

69 people in three years makes the NAZIs look moderate?

You don't see the difference between a moment specific statistic and an overall philosophy moving forward?

Tell us all about how cigarette restrictions are still nothing more than a non-smoking section on 'airplanes'.

Anonymous SkinDeep October 08, 2014 2:31 PM  

And you run a publishing house? Never seen so many mistakes in one post. Writing mistakes, I should clarify. Your factual and logical errors have always been numerous.

Anonymous Cranberry October 08, 2014 2:34 PM  

Yes, Examination Day, a Twilight Zone.

Funny, people keep telling me that I've read too much sci-fi and I'm paranoid, it will never come to killing people just because low IQ, or low worth to society, or whatever.

But we already do that: unborn children, cancer patients, the mentally ill. It's being done somewhere, so it's done and accepted, even it's not widespread. If you're inconvenient, you're outta here. Permanent vacation.

I cannot see any good in a policy that allows people to end life willy-nilly, and calling it good because it was done out of benevolent intentions rather than violent actions.

As long as they're not executing convicted murderers, that is true savagery.

Too right.

Anonymous Krul October 08, 2014 2:36 PM  

Sane person in Europe: "I gotta say I really enjoy living in such a progressive cultu- Hey! So long, suckers!."

OpenID cailcorishev October 08, 2014 2:48 PM  

ST:TNG "Half A Life" addressed this. Suicide at 65 so you don't burden your kids with your old useless body. Hey, it's cultural, don't dare judge it.

Which was exactly the message of the episode. At first, people (especially his new girlfriend) were shocked, and argued that he should protest, run away, whatever. But by the final act, they'd all come around to the wisdom of respecting the alien culture, and saw him off with a smile.

Anonymous Cranberry October 08, 2014 2:53 PM  

cail, the ending was typical ST TNG. I wonder if Kirk would have kidnapped him and said "hell with it" to the Federation treaty. Ah well. I don't want to get all trekkie. But there are numerous examples of not-so-subtle cultural programming of this type that are leading us in this direction.

It's like the episode with the androgyne who gets it on with Riker and decides it wants to be female - ultimately, it joins its own kind. Which is maybe what we should all do, be with our own kind, do our own thing, and not let their foreign ways contaminate us...

uh, or something like that?

I wonder if the multiculturalists will be accepting of the Christian customs of marriage and maintaining the dignity of life even in suffering. Somehow, doubt colors those thoughts.

Blogger Res Ipsa October 08, 2014 2:53 PM  

The Dutch will kill the sick, the unborn, the unaware, and the otherwise socially unfortunate, but they will not execute criminals for their crimes because that would be inhumane and uncompassionate.

Blogger GF Dad October 08, 2014 2:59 PM  

It's hard to believe that Corrie ten Boom was from the same country. What a difference 75 years make.

Anonymous Porky October 08, 2014 3:03 PM  

24,600 deaths by euthanasia.

not to mention 28,000 abortions.

Molech is pleased.

Blogger Jim Hyland October 08, 2014 3:03 PM  

There are two types of people I can't stand...people who are intolerant of other people's cultures, and the Dutch.

Anonymous Joe Doakes October 08, 2014 3:12 PM  

" . . . murder all the boomers . . . ." No dissonance: we wish the people who are destroying our society would suffer the death penalty, rather than forcing the death penalty on us while they're destroying it.

Anonymous Krul October 08, 2014 3:17 PM  

Cranberry - ST:TNG "Half A Life" addressed this. Suicide at 65 so you don't burden your kids with your old useless body. Hey, it's cultural, don't dare judge it.

Never saw that one, but I distinctly remember another episode in which Worf was paralized in an accident so he asked Riker to kill him in accordance with the demands of Klingon warrior culture. As I recall, Riker refused with a passionate speech about how stupid and wrong this tradition was.

Just goes to show how incoherent TNG's lessons were.

Anonymous Musashi October 08, 2014 3:20 PM  

Humans are murderous creatures.

Between the endless wars, abortion, criminals, and copious "official" killings, there is no end to our thirst for blood.

We've done Moloch proud.
Go humans!

Anonymous bob k. mando October 08, 2014 3:25 PM  

Cryan Ryan October 08, 2014 1:52 PM
Some of you must be suffering from cognitive dissonance.



not at all. Logan's Run was made for, consumed and lauded by ... Boomers.

when we tell you to go to Carrousel, we're just repeating your own lies back to you.

it's not that we don't understand that they are lies.

it's that YOU DON'T DESERVE ANY BETTER.

Anonymous Varenius October 08, 2014 3:26 PM  

Cranberry: What troubles me is that people don't see that this can eventually become a custom, or worse, a law.

Exactly. Anyone here leaning toward euthanasia legalization needs to very seriously contemplate the social trends of the past 50 years. It's never "just one brick."

Blogger njartist October 08, 2014 3:30 PM  

"67% of people who die on the bicycle are older than 60."
Dammit, I was planning on getting a bike -- might as well get a motorcycle.

Anonymous Dr. Doom October 08, 2014 3:32 PM  

Vox, you ignorant slut. People with I.Q.s under 99 are magically stupid! These are the serfs they want. Its those wreckers with I.Q.s over 99 that ask those stupid questions about freedom and theft!
You can't have a dark dystopian future without a healthy population of sheeple that are satisfied with less and believe the stories they tell in the media! Everyone else are unnecessary!
The first people that need euthanasia are the organ donors with organs that are compatible to our Dear Leader...

Anonymous J. J. October 08, 2014 3:35 PM  

Richard W Comerford - yes, I have reason to believe Belgium is even worse than the Netherlands. A friend's wife, who is from Belgium, lost her best friend to euthanasia. She was maybe 30-35 and in perfect health, just depressed and wanted to die. From what I'm told, all you have to do in Belgium is get a psychiatrist to sign on the dotted line, and you're good to go for the full euthanasia procedure. Her brother was furious.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus October 08, 2014 3:50 PM  

Jonathan63: "Can I get a doctor to diagnose my parents with dementia so I can get ahold of my inheritance sooner?"

Yes.

You'll also be able to maneuver to drive them into depression and have them put down that way. Heartlessness was never so profitable.

Anonymous patrick kelly October 08, 2014 3:53 PM  

I wonder if at some point in time CA will still have a 10 day waiting period to buy a gun, but they'll get you in right away for the needle..........

Blogger Vincent Castrillo October 08, 2014 4:16 PM  

While I totally agree with you on this issue, the thought of sub 99 IQers being rubbed out in mass might not be so.....especially in Europe.

In a morbid thought exercise think about who this "takes care of"

1) majority of immigrants, especially those from NAM nations and virtually all from Africa. Of course they should be given a choice to go back first.

2)Stupid slags and proles that basically exist to leech of their societies, cause trouble, eat and shit. They reliably vote and riot for those who will allow them to do this even more. Instead of euthanasia perhaps sterilization?

3)Elite hippies and cat women who have always been taken care of by family money, etc. These are the worst.

Sure this would leave a lot of the clueless around, but I'd rather live in a permanent 1990s New Hampshire/Oregon then Londanistan of the future.

Anonymous Krul October 08, 2014 4:33 PM  

Re: Vincent Castrillo,

You're options look optimistic to me. I'd expect the powers that be to deploy this against the best in society, not the unthreatening worst, in accordance with a famous demonstration by Thrasybulus.

J.J. - From what I'm told, all you have to do in Belgium is get a psychiatrist to sign on the dotted line, and you're good to go for the full euthanasia procedure.

Don't they take the Hippocratic oath?

When there's money to be made, I guess even doctors stop caring about the dots.

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian, King of Aquilonia October 08, 2014 4:39 PM  

OT but there seems to be a case of Ebola/Obola just down the road from the Cimmerian family here in north Texas.

A Dallas Co. sheriff officer that visited the apt. of patient number one (it seems without any protective gear).

And so it begins.

http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/health/2014/10/08/patient-frisco-ebola-suspect/16922477/

FRISCO — Crews transported a patient exhibiting "signs and symptoms of Ebola" from a Frisco CareNow to Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital Dallas.

"Right now, there are more questions than answers about this case," said Wendell Watson, a spokesman with the hospital.

The patient was identified as Sgt. Michael Monnig, a deputy who accompanied county health officials Zachary Thompson and Christopher Perkins into the apartment where Thomas Eric Duncan stayed in Dallas.

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian, King of Aquilonia October 08, 2014 4:40 PM  

Excuse me, patient zero.

Blogger Vincent Castrillo October 08, 2014 4:44 PM  

Krul why would you ever take as a given that doctors give one iota of sh^t about anything other than themselves and their careers?? Seriously. For every one unicorn-ly doctor of goodness, there are a thousand conceited, money-grubbing, non-caring physicians who will lie at the drop of a hat to avoid consequences or avoid risk in taking care of you. If the law says they can steal, cheat, harm, kill the mentally unstable for a fee, they will do it and sleep well at night.

Growing up most of us, myself included, saw doctors as these intelligent figures of awesomeness that cured the sick and worried about the health of all. BS!! I went to school with many of them, grew up with quite a few, and have hung out socially with some as well. Most are not even that smart, value status above EVERYTHING, and could care less about anything other than not getting sued.

Think about it for a sec. What have they cured in the last 60 years?? Most conditions are not "treated" with endless meds instead of cured. Why? Lots of money. Thatr's why. If you think most doctors you know wouldn't sign on the line to KILL many a patient for various reasons for a fee, while coddling their egos with some pseudo-science justifications you are naïve.

As for your comment in reply to mine, I grant you that, except recall that my suggestions are only under VD's conditions that 99 below IQers are to be liquidated. If this is followed, the "best" clearly wouldn't qualify.

Anonymous Jeigh Di October 08, 2014 4:59 PM  

Bob and Joe, there's an old story that I won't bore you with by telling in its entirety, but here's the punch line;
"Be sure to bring the wheelbarrow back so I'll have it for when you get old."
Just a few words to the wise,eh.

OpenID cailcorishev October 08, 2014 5:08 PM  

A Dallas Co. sheriff officer that visited the apt. of patient number one

Is his name Joe Bob?

Blogger Krul October 08, 2014 5:10 PM  

Re: Vincent Castrillo,

Doctors are very different from lawyers, Wall Street brokers, and Congressmen whose integrity and altruistic scruples are beyond reproach.

Blogger Quadko October 08, 2014 5:15 PM  

But they are, of course, too enlightened to have the death penalty. Still, since crime is a disease and dysfunction in leftist theory, it won't be a large step from "euthanized for mental illness" to "euthanized for criminal mental illness". The question is whether there will be any furor over the disconnect: "we don't punish with death, we just heal with death".

It's only the western Judeo-Christian belief that penitent people can change, that people can be made penitent, and that people's soul and shot at a positive afterlife is valuable enough to give them the chance to attempt penitence that makes locking people up in a penitentiary worthwhile to society. Aside from detaining for court or thawing someone out in the drunk tank, there's not a reasonable reason for an Atheist to pay for somone's room and board if they prove "criminally defective" any more than keeping cancer cells alive. Euthanizing the mentally ill proves the point, no theory necessary.

But the resolving the disconnect between "we're too moral to have the death penalty" and "we're too kind to let these people live" should provide some black humor. It's too bad it's people's lives that are being are played with. Holland fails the "kind to the poor, weak, and helpless" test. No doubt widows and orphans will be on the list soon, too.

Still, speaking of black humor, that's one way to solve unemployment and government dependance. You get 18 months on the dole or of unemployment insurance, 6 months of grace period, and then we Euthanize you for your own peace of mind - if you're too mentally defective to make a living and be a net benefit to society, that's a sufficient diagnosis for us Dutch! We'd hate to see you suffer. Emphasis on see.

Blogger Markku October 08, 2014 5:30 PM  

Never seen so many mistakes in one post. Writing mistakes, I should clarify.

"Many" is more than one, I presume. So, apart from into -> until, what other mistakes are there, such that they are Vox's text and not quoted from Daily Mail?

Blogger Markku October 08, 2014 5:39 PM  

I am politely assuming that you didn't, in your hurry to snap at ankles, fail to notice that there was a link immediately followed by a blockquote.

But what I'm privately thinking about the course of events may or may not be as polite.

Blogger Krul October 08, 2014 5:43 PM  

Markku, there appears to be a typo in the second sentence as well: "abortion and the end of life" should be "abortion at the beginning of life".

This brings our errors to a grand total of 2.

Blogger Markku October 08, 2014 5:46 PM  

Krul, yes, turns out that would be a second error. Still not "many" as most people would understand the word, but at least it's more than one.

Anonymous Johnycomelately October 08, 2014 5:53 PM  

It gets worse (second hand information, take it as you will), a close friend who is a priest confided in me that he confessed an obstetrician who felt remorse over the fact that she secretly terminated the lives of babies (without the parent's knowledge) who were deemed unfit (apparently it was an unwritten policy at the hospital, to prevent 'suffering').

Sounds far fetched but the communists did it and it's not a far step from euthanasia.

Blogger Markku October 08, 2014 6:03 PM  

It's BABIES, and still she doesn't put it as "I secretly murdered babies". I sincerely hope that this person wasn't granted an absolution for her sins.

Blogger Vincent Castrillo October 08, 2014 6:30 PM  

"Re: Vincent Castrillo,

Doctors are very different from lawyers, Wall Street brokers, and Congressmen whose integrity and altruistic scruples are beyond reproach. "

Krul are you really this dense or just having a laugh? What does any of that have to do with whether or not doctors are slimy?? For that matter you might as well say criminals are bad so unicorns,,,,.....????

Yikes.

Anonymous ENthePeasant October 08, 2014 6:41 PM  

Last week I saw a couple of young Muslim Vibrants beating the shit out of a Dutch woman. It incensed me. I felt, "what's wrong with these people?" Within minutes I read about this. My thoughts on the Dutch are now as follows: They won't protect the weak and they don't have babies. Sell off their woman to Arab Slavers and put the men to work as medical assistants in the African Obola Zone. Repopulate the country with Tulips (I like Tulips) and never mention the place again.

Anonymous automatthew October 08, 2014 6:52 PM  

"he confessed an obstetrician who felt remorse over the fact that she secretly terminated the lives of babies"

Homebirth or die.

Anonymous automatthew October 08, 2014 6:53 PM  

"I sincerely hope that this person wasn't granted an absolution for her sins."

Lynching is a form of absolution.

Anonymous Steveo October 08, 2014 6:58 PM  

Careful guys... thing like this could turn anti-diversity pronto.

Anonymous Krul October 08, 2014 7:04 PM  

Vincent Castrillo - Krul are you really this dense or just having a laugh?

Now which could it be? It's a mystery!

Would it help if I added Savings and Loan associations and used car salesmen to the list of virtuous paragons?

Blogger njartist October 08, 2014 7:10 PM  

@Conan
The patient was identified as Sgt. Michael Monnig, a deputy who accompanied county health officials Zachary Thompson and Christopher Perkins into the apartment where Thomas Eric Duncan stayed in Dallas.
Judge Jenkins should be charged with manslaughter. I hope that every other law officer tells him to stuff it if the murderous fool tries to pull any like the visit again.

Anonymous Sarcophilus October 08, 2014 7:13 PM  

Netherlands, or the Nether World?

But it is intellectual white people doing the slaughter, not ISIS. None dare call it 4th generation war (or treason, or witchcraft - see Gary North's retitled "Unholy Spirits" and he is not referring to "demon rum").

Blogger Eric October 08, 2014 7:13 PM  

And how long before NOT euthanizing yourself for certain reasons becomes socially unacceptable? You know, before you become a "burden."

I was told by a Dutch guy that's already the case. Your family might not say anything, but they're thinking it.

And the neighbors are saying it.

Anonymous Dr. Kenneth Noisewater October 08, 2014 7:31 PM  

Last week I saw a couple of young Muslim Vibrants beating the shit out of a Dutch woman. It incensed me.

Is it white-knighting if you genuinely ENJOY beating the shit out of people? Kicking them in the balls and headbutting their noses and eyesockets, then kicking them in the neck, teeth and face with steeltoe boots while they're writhing on the ground in tears and screams?

Blogger Markku October 08, 2014 7:38 PM  

Is it white-knighting if you genuinely ENJOY beating the shit out of people?

No. If justice is your reward in itself, and not the expected gratitude of the damsel in distress, it isn't white-knighting.

Blogger Tommy Hass October 08, 2014 7:43 PM  

"Is it white-knighting if you genuinely ENJOY beating the shit out of people? Kicking them in the balls and headbutting their noses and eyesockets, then kicking them in the neck, teeth and face with steeltoe boots while they're writhing on the ground in tears and screams?"

That's attempted manslaughter you genius.

Anonymous ENthePeasant October 08, 2014 7:49 PM  

"Is it white-knighting if you genuinely ENJOY beating the shit out of people?"

Don't know much about White Knighting, you'll have to ask others about that. I'm guessing if you really enjoy beating up Dutch women in public while everyone stands around with their cameras out, the problems are so deep that who cares? Be done with them.

Blogger Markku October 08, 2014 7:50 PM  

Is it white-knighting if you genuinely ENJOY beating the shit out of people?

Obviously he meant giving tough love to the vibrants.

Anonymous ENthePeasant October 08, 2014 7:55 PM  

Yes, I did mean that.

Anonymous richard w comerford October 08, 2014 7:56 PM  

Mr J. J.
Re: Belgium

I further read that Catholic Belgium also recently passed a law allowing for the Euthanasia of CHILDREN under 12. It was reportedly signed by the Catholic King of Belgium. I could find no commentary from either Holy Father Francis or any Vatican functionary.

Hitler, it appears, won WW II.

God bless

Richard W Comerford

Blogger Markku October 08, 2014 7:57 PM  

Ah, I see. Well, the charge of white-knighting is a separate issue. In general, if you would have done that exact same thing even if the victim was male, then it is not white-knighting.

OpenID cailcorishev October 08, 2014 8:01 PM  

I sincerely hope that this person wasn't granted an absolution for her sins.

The priest would have no choice but to give her absolution, as long as she makes a good confession: expresses full contrition and the intention not to commit the sin again. She can't go in and say, "This is something I have to do now and then, so I want absolution." It has to be in the past, and she has to be determined not to do it again.

Whether she actually receives absolution, regardless of the priest's words, depends on the truth of her contrition and resolution, which is only known to her and God. If she's lying, then not only are those sins not forgiven, but she's added sacrilege to the list that'll have to be confessed next time.

Blogger Markku October 08, 2014 8:03 PM  

If she actually used those words, "terminated the lives", then I can only laugh at the idea of "full contrition".

Blogger Markku October 08, 2014 8:15 PM  

That is the equivalent of confessing your affair with your friend's wife by saying "I shagged his bitch".

Blogger Markku October 08, 2014 8:20 PM  

Luk 21:11 And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.


Thank God for Ebola. May it cause death in a magnitude never seen before. Amen.

Anonymous A Visitor October 08, 2014 9:01 PM  

*sarc* Vox, don't you know that unless it's the killing of a living person, not a blob of tissue, then it's not wrong?!? WHY WON'T YOU LET ME DO WHAT I WANT? IT'S MY BOOOOOOOOOODY! */sarc*

"42 people with mental illnesses killed by lethal injection in Holland last year..Most cases - some 3,600 people – involved cancer sufferers but there were also 97 people who died at the hands of their doctors because they were suffering from dementia, the figures show.

The figures, however, do not include cases of so-called terminal sedation, where patients are given a cocktail of sedatives and narcotics before food and fluids are withdrawn."

Ok, so it' s T4. I find it ironic because the Netherlands were occupied by the Germans during the Second World War.

"Overall, deaths by euthanasia, which officially account for three per cent of all deaths in the Netherlands, have increased by 151 per cent in just seven years."

151%?!? Jeez!

"He was also gravely concerned at the extension of killing to new classes of people, including the demented and the depressed. ‘Some slopes truly are slippery,’ he said."

No mention of WWII or T4.

How long before having the wrong political opinion is equated with "severe psychiatric problems"?

They used to throw political dissidents in the Soviet Union into mental hospitals and claim they had mental diseases.

"And how long before NOT euthanizing yourself for certain reasons becomes socially unacceptable?"

I heard, dk if this is true, years ago that elderly in the Netherlands actually carry around cards in their pockets that basically say, "Don't euthanize me!" in case they are taken unresponsive to a hospital.

"69 people in three years makes the NAZIs look moderate?"

No but it ain't pretty. I think what Vox was trying to say (correct me if I'm wrong) is that they're coming to the same end as the National Socialists through a different means and not as intensely (for the moment).

"This is just a precursor to our future Logan's Run society. Renew! Renew!"

Good luck on winning at Carousel!

"Gee I was just getting used to the ilk ranting about how great it would be to murder all the boomers...and now this..."

I'd like to point out I'm the exception: I never advocated that.

"by allowing a patient to die by dehydration and starvation."

Which is murder by inaction.

@Krul

A great episode of Futurama! What about the classical music a.k.a Sir MixaLot?

"It's hard to believe that Corrie ten Boom was from the same country. What a difference 75 years make."

Thanks for the education. I had never heard of her.

"I wonder if at some point in time CA will still have a 10 day waiting period to buy a gun, but they'll get you in right away for the needle.........."

I'd say probably within the next decade. Since we're on the whole WWII thing, remember the Nazis took eugenics as it was Stateside and perfected it. So, obviously, the US has to catch up to the rest of the enlightened European world vis a vis euthanasia or so goes foolish liberal thought processes.

@Castrillo

I must have met all the exceptions, some who are family, some who are family friends. I must also forget about those that saved my life when I was a kid.

"could care less about anything other than not getting sued."

Anonymous A Visitor October 08, 2014 9:02 PM  

When you have a population that thinks House ER and MDs is how it really is, see "miracle" treatments that work one in a million and cause more harm than good, I'd be concerned about getting sued over malpractice too.

Case in point: my dad is now sitting on his 9th malpractice board in 27 years of practicing medicine. He read the packet and decided the patient was a fool. He's seen two or three cases that were genuine malpractice.

"Thatr's why. If you think most doctors you know wouldn't sign on the line to KILL many a patient for various reasons for a fee, while coddling their egos with some pseudo-science justifications you are naïve."

I'd beg to differ. Are you talking about orthopedics, anesthesiologists, neurosurgeons, internal medicine, general practitioners?

"a close friend who is a priest confided in me that he confessed an obstetrician who felt remorse over the fact that she secretly terminated the lives of babies (without the parent's knowledge) who were deemed unfit (apparently it was an unwritten policy at the hospital, to prevent 'suffering')."

That's when you walk away from the operating table and go to another hospital or leave the profession altogether. I have a friend who is a second year OBGYN resident that explicitly chose her residency program due to its emphasis against abortion and birth control.

"They won't protect the weak and they don't have babies. Sell off their woman to Arab Slavers and put the men to work as medical assistants in the African Obola Zone. Repopulate the country with Tulips (I like Tulips) and never mention the place again."

It genuinely saddens me. One thing to keep in mind is that just because it's society wide doesn't mean everyone approves of it. Take abortion in the U.S. for example.

"Is it white-knighting if you genuinely ENJOY beating the shit out of people? Kicking them in the balls and headbutting their noses and eyesockets, then kicking them in the neck, teeth and face with steeltoe boots while they're writhing on the ground in tears and screams?"

It's not white knighting. It's saving one of your own (white European) from a group of 3rd world mongrels.

"I further read that Catholic Belgium also recently passed a law allowing for the Euthanasia of CHILDREN under 12. It was reportedly signed by the Catholic King of Belgium. I could find no commentary from either Holy Father Francis or any Vatican functionary."

Gonna have to look that up...balls if true!

"The priest would have no choice but to give her absolution, as long as she makes a good confession: expresses full contrition and the intention not to commit the sin again. She can't go in and say, "This is something I have to do now and then, so I want absolution." It has to be in the past, and she has to be determined not to do it again.

Whether she actually receives absolution, regardless of the priest's words, depends on the truth of her contrition and resolution, which is only known to her and God. If she's lying, then not only are those sins not forgiven, but she's added sacrilege to the list that'll have to be confessed next time."

BOOM! 100% correct!

Here are two Dutchmen that know music!

Blogger ray October 08, 2014 10:18 PM  

Cancelled my flight to Holland.

Anonymous ENthePeasant October 09, 2014 12:18 AM  

"Thank God for Ebola. May it cause death in a magnitude never seen before. Amen."

That's exactly what I was thinking. I'm watching this Dutch female get her ass kicked by vibrants while everyone stands around... and the next thing you know I'm reading about their "early" end of life practices and it seemed pointless to worry about such people. AMEN, indeed!

Anonymous kh123 October 09, 2014 12:37 AM  

Surprised no one's mentioned the oven yet.

Anonymous HankL October 09, 2014 12:40 AM  

Setting aside the "doctors murdering" part (because you have no idea what you are talking about) the number of patients who chosoe to take their own lives seems low at 6,000.

Furthermore, it's hard to imagine why anyone would want to deny someone the right to do this and to do so with a doctors help. That's just cruel. Why are you so sadistic?

Anonymous Dirty zen0 October 09, 2014 12:41 AM  

kh123 October 09, 2014 12:37 AM

Surprised no one's mentioned the oven yet.


You got a better idea?

Well, do you, punk?

Anonymous zen0 October 09, 2014 12:47 AM  

@ Hank L
Furthermore, it's hard to imagine why anyone would want to deny someone the right to do this and to do so with a doctors help. That's just cruel. Why are you so sadistic?

Do you explicitly trust the doctor to make the decision based on your best interest and not his (or hers.......[duh] ), then go ahead, spin the wheel.

May God have mercy on your soul. (And ours, hopefully)

Anonymous HankL October 09, 2014 12:51 AM  

"Do you explicitly trust the doctor to make the decision based on your best interest and not his (or hers.......[duh] ), then go ahead, spin the wheel."

All I have to trust the doctor to do is prepare and administer the correct cocktail. If I choose to take my life rather than suffer, that's my call, not the doctor's.

Anonymous Krul October 09, 2014 1:09 AM  

HankL - Furthermore, it's hard to imagine why anyone would want to deny someone the right to do this and to do so with a doctors help. That's just cruel. Why are you so sadistic?

A doctor's help is necessary for safety reasons. Without professional oversight someone might get hurt or even killed.

Anonymous ENthePeasant October 09, 2014 2:59 AM  

"Without professional oversight someone might get hurt or even killed."

That's funny. I needed that.

Anonymous Angry October 09, 2014 3:05 AM  

Abortion is heavily supported among women because the only way a less attractive woman can compete against a more attractive woman is by putting out. All women are attracted to the same kind of man but some women just have to work harder to get it. A man of high enough value can demand more adventurousness during sex. If a pregnancy results in the man bailing, then the abortion allows a woman to reset her mating strategy.

Telling women that they cannot have abortions is effectively telling them that they cannot pursue the kind of man they really want. Mate selection is even more primal than protecting babies, which is why women are so disproportionately loyal to maintaining abortion.

Abortion is similar to gun control. Personal defense is very primal which is why there is so much fierce loyalty to gun rights.

Blogger Markku October 09, 2014 3:29 AM  

All I have to trust the doctor to do is prepare and administer the correct cocktail.

You also have to trust the doctor to NOT prepare and administer the correct cocktail, should you not express your wish to have it. That would be the entire point of the post.

Anonymous kh123 October 09, 2014 4:01 AM  

European Hotbox: Coming soon to a gastronome near you.

Anonymous kh123 October 09, 2014 4:02 AM  

...Good God, people, do I have to spell it out for you. Did none of you ever go camping?

Blogger dfordoom October 09, 2014 4:17 AM  

When you have voluntary euthanasia, at some point it will become involuntary in practice. There are no safeguards you can build in to stop that from happening. There will always be people wanting to get rid of annoying or inconvenient relatives. Euthanasia leads inevitably to murder.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus October 09, 2014 5:05 AM  

Paul, Dammit!: "And how long before NOT euthanizing yourself for certain reasons becomes socially unacceptable?"

The emotional and social pressure starts immediately. And the "certain reasons" would include medical bills that threatened to eat into an inheritance.

Heirs are exquisitely sensitive to all the reasons it would be thoughtful and responsible for unnecessary elderly relatives to die, die, die, just die dammit!!

The only frustrating factor is that you can't effectively put pressure on people to do what they can't legally do. (Pressure to accept offers of a duel ended when dueling became illegal.)

Remove the barrier that "you can stop dropping hints that it would be nice of me to consent to a lethal injection, as I have no such option" and the thumbscrews come out the same day.

Anonymous Michael October 09, 2014 7:46 AM  

Euthanasia and infanticide are both characteristic of Marxist invasion. Human life is arbitrarily devalued and snuffed out.

This is Satanic.

Blogger IM2L844 October 09, 2014 11:08 AM  

The Dutch have to attempt to satiate their genic bloodlust somehow.

Anonymous bob k. mando October 09, 2014 11:50 AM  

Jeigh Di October 08, 2014 4:59 PM
Just a few words to the wise,eh.



you are not tall enough for this ride.

i already pointed out that i know that the philosophy of Logan's Run is evil and a lie. knew it at ~10, actually.

i would not say these things to all Boomers.

i say them to Ryan, and others of his subset of Boomers, because they are exactly the narcissistic twits who were running around in the 70s babbling about "never trust anyone over 30" and making Logan's so popular they made a TV show out of it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan%27s_Run_%28TV_series%29

Blogger Krul October 09, 2014 12:25 PM  

It's the dark humor of the situation that gets me.

If I were a Dutch "doctor" I'd wear a black hooded mask and carry an axe everywhere.

The axe's name would be "Bedside Manner".

Anonymous Sudo Nym October 10, 2014 11:59 AM  

Cranberry
ST:TNG "Half A Life" addressed this. Suicide at 65 so you don't burden your kids with your old useless body. Hey, it's cultural, don't dare judge it.

Isaac Asimov's novellette Pebble in the Sky written in 1947 and published in 1950 featured "The Sixty". Hollywood hacks rarely write anything new, they just mine older fiction and stick a new label on it.

OpenID cailcorishev October 13, 2014 9:14 AM  

With two important differences. In Azimov's Sixty, exceptions were made for people who contributed greatly to society. In TNG's, there were no exceptions, which was a major part of the plot: they insisted the guy kill himself even though he was working on some discovery that could save his people.

The bigger difference, though, is that Azimov's characters see the Sixty as a bad thing that's been imposed by a tyrannical empire. Trek's characters see it as unfair at first -- because they like the guy -- but they give him their blessing once they remember to be properly culturally sensitive.

It shows how far leftists had come on the topic from Asimov around 1950 to Roddenberry about 40 years later.

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